governor romney. and ryan at this point, to try to change the dynamic once again, this is going to be a proxy fight, but you know what? paul ryan has a record, as well, we heard it no -- in ron mott's speech and that is something that joe biden wants to exploit here. he will talk about the president and the 47% and talk about ryan as the idea of a lot of conservative thinking, the taxes, and spending. >> all right, david gregory, all part of the team for tonight's coverage of the vice presidential debate beginning tonight, 9 eastern, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> we turn now to another major story out there today, the meningitis outbreak linked to tainted steroid shots for back pain. the numbers keep climbing. according to the cdc's number today, 14 people now have died. 170 patients are sick, and now there are even more questions about the specialty pharmacy, the compounding pharmacy is that is the source of the bad medicine. our report tonight from nbc's rehema ellis. >> repor